Ep 12: No One Is Coming to Save You

May 13, 2026

Ep 12: No One Is Coming to Save You

What happens when two people who started as business partners — and not even friends — end up building one of the most solid entrepreneurial marriages in real estate? This week, Stephanie and Zach welcome Matt Theriault of Epic Real Estate and his partner Mercedes Torres for a double date conversation that gets refreshingly honest about ego, adaptability, and what it actually means to be a team. Mercedes admits Matt couldn’t stand her when they first met. Matt admits he’s been married and divorced twice before. And together, they share the one distinction that changed everything: when you love someone, why would you ever want them to lose just so you can win?

What unfolds is a masterclass in partnership under pressure. Matt and Mercedes open up about the five hardest years of their business lives — COVID wiped out their thriving live events company almost overnight, and they spent two years hoping it would come back before finally accepting it wouldn’t. What pulled them through wasn’t a strategy. It was the same thing that built their relationship in the first place: complementary strengths, zero tolerance for “I told you so,” and the discipline to focus on one thing when everything felt like it was falling apart. From eight throw pillows arranged in exactly the right order to the real reason employees stay on a team for a decade — this episode is packed with the kind of wisdom that only comes from going through the fire together.

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Key Takeaways

Stop trying to win the argument. Matt’s reframe is simple and devastating: if you love someone, why would you want them to lose? The moment he heard that, he called Mercedes and squashed a days-long argument immediately. Needing to be right is a relationship liability — in marriage and on your team.
Peers make the best partners. Matt and Mercedes saw each other as equals from day one — not romantically, but professionally. That peer-level respect meant their strengths and weaknesses were treated as assets, not ammunition. Whether you work together or not, how you position your partner in your mind shapes everything.
Swim in your own lane — by design. Mercedes made a deliberate choice early: separate offices, separate drives to work, separate domains. Not because they didn’t trust each other, but because she refused to get sick of her husband. Intentional boundaries aren’t distance — they’re protection for the relationship.
No one is coming to save you. Matt’s most honest moment: they had plenty of friends offering sympathy and pats on the back during the hard years. None of it improved the situation. At some point you stop waiting for the storm to pass and start building in the rain.
Humility is a strength, not a weakness. Mercedes calls it out directly — vulnerability and humility get mistaken for weakness constantly. But the leaders whose teams stay for ten years, whose partners still choose them after 17, are the ones who can say “I don’t know” and “you take this one” without it costing them their identity.